BOUNCEBACK: New Orleans Saints' Tyler Shough & Chris Olave Ignite Hope Despite Loss

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On today's episode, the New Orleans Saints had some interesting wrinkles on defense, including getting some players involved that might have expanding roles throughout the rest of the season. The Saints defensive leaders, Chase Young, Kool-Aid McKinstry, all checked a lot of boxes and will kick everything off with how the New Orleans Saints started with hope, despite starting with a loss and why it all centers around two players. We got all that and a little bit of land yet for you on today's episode. So let's get into it. New Orleans Saints quarterback Tyler Shough and New Orleans Saints wide receiver, Chris Olave, create great, generate some fantastic sources of hope for this New Orleans Saints team, despite their 30 to 31 loss to the Detroit Lions to open up the season. Now I say that it revolves around both of these guys. It's probably more appropriate to say that it starts with both of these guys because there are other players that brought some hope as well for this team. But the two biggest positions where it felt like the Saints needed to see production, needed to know that they were headed in the right direction, and most importantly, needed to know that they had the right building blocks in place that they were investing in, were quarterback and wide receiver. I think that the Saints proved and really the players proved the Saints right, that they do indeed have the right building blocks at those two positions. Quarterback Tyler Shough started this game rough. It wasn't all positive for New Orleans and I'm not going to sit here and pretend like it was. Slow starts, run game still couldn't get going, still a lot of questions on that offensive line and their performance as well. A lot of things that didn't necessarily go the way that the Saints might have hoped in this matchup, but a lot of things that were very important that did, including performances at quarterback and wide receiver. Please know that I'm not eschewing the fact that things weren't perfect for this New Orleans Saints team. But looking ahead now, this team clearly has the right building blocks in place. Tyler Shough was outstanding. He started this game off rough with three turnovers, two of which in quick secession that helped to put the New Orleans Saints in a bad position to start off this game down 21 to 0 in the middle of the third quarter. But then flipped a switch. Was able to flush all of that. It was able to go out there and complete throughout the course of the fourth quarter and overtime. He completed 17 of 23 passes for 231 passing yards, two passing touchdowns, and had a passer rating over the course of those two periods, let's say the fourth quarter and overtime, of 134.5. That was after throwing for just 179 passing yards, one touchdown, and two interceptions with a 55 passer rating through the first three quarters of the game. If the Saints learned anything in this matchup, it's that they've got the right guy under center. Because taking all of that, dealing with all of that, three turnovers, 179 passing yards in the first three quarters, a 55 passer rating, a low completion percentage, all that. Dealing with all that early on in the game, and still being able to help this team two separate times get in position to win, 62-yard field goal at the end of regulation, two-point conversion at the end of the game. That is the stuff that franchise quarterbacks are made of. And that is what the New Orleans Saints needed to learn about Tyler Shough in this matchup. And I think that they learned it. They've got the right guy under center. There's no doubt about it. I was getting some questions off to the side through our text line as well as our, you know, just on like DMs and things like that about whether or not the Saints should have benched Tyler Shough and put in Spencer Rattler after that rough start to the second half. And I kept saying, no, absolutely not unequivocally, that would have been the wrong decision by New Orleans. If he's going to be the franchise guy, he's got to show that he can dig himself out of a performance like that or learn from a performance like that. Even if it wouldn't have gotten better for Tyler Shough, I would have never advocated for him being benched in that matchup. That would have been the wrong call by New Orleans. And shout out to Kellyn Moore and the New Orleans Saints for allowing a cooler head to prevail and not even walking down that road at any point throughout this matchup from what I'm told. I just wanted to ask to make sure. But this team unequivocally believed in Tyler Shough. And Tyler Shough made them all right by the time that that game was over. Yes, it was a loss. Yes, the New Orleans Saints are 0-1. Yes, they're probably going to start 0-2. All of this is exactly what we expected. But the one other thing that we expected was that Tyler Shough was going to be the story for the right reasons Monday morning. And it's Monday morning. And you know who's the biggest story? Tyler Shough. And you know why? For all the right reasons, because of his ability to bounce back from that. I said in a post-game vertical that I couldn't have been more impressed with Tyler Shough. I guess technically I could have been because of his, if he would have started better and finished the way that he finished, then obviously we would have been more impressed. But I don't know. There's something about navigating what felt like a pitfall for him as a second year quarterback who was moving like a veteran by the time that that game started to turn around for this team. To me, the New Orleans Saints learned and have a lot of hope in six here. They know they have the right player under center. And he's throwing to the right guy as well with Chris Olave out there, who not only dominated from the outside, but dominated from the slot, 182 receiving yards in this game. It was the most since Michael Thomas also had 182 receiving yards in week five of the 2019 season. And that game or that season, he went on to have 1725 receiving yards. So we'll see what Chris Olave's season looks like. I don't think it's going to be that insane. But man, 182 receiving yards, a career high for him. Didn't walk away with a touchdown in this one, but was the key reason on a couple of different occasions the Saints were in position to score points. Came up with some big one-on-one wins, had the big one-on-one drop early on in the game, but then was able to turn that around and have this outstanding game that he wrapped up with. I mean, just an incredible matchup for both of these guys who had to navigate some out of rhythm, inconsistent play early and some disastrous moments early for Tyler Shough. And they turned that into nearly winning this football game. And really, we could be talking about a tie if they would have just made the decision to kick the extra point at the end and then gotten to stop. But I like Kellen Moore going for the win and saying, on the road, momentum's our way right now. Let's go for it. I love it. I wish it would have been a better play call, but I love the call nonetheless. I love the decision nonetheless. Don't like the call, love the decision. So for New Orleans, they know that they've got hope here, and Saints fans should feel hope here. Even if Saints fans don't feel hope, the organization should. They clearly have the right players in the right places. The tackles were excellent in overtime, when it really, really mattered in that final drive. Calvin Banks Jr. got beat on one big move by Aiden Hudson that I'm convinced could have beat anybody. Noah Fant came in and was extremely helpful. Yvonne Vellet made some big time plays. Juwan Johnson made some big plays. Down towards the end, it's clear that the offense has the right building blocks in position to go. They got to get better at opening up games, got to get better on the offensive line, got to get more consistent, all those other things, got to start faster, all that stuff. We know all of that. But this New Orleans Saints team did what it needed to do to prove that it's got the right building blocks in the right areas. Two of those players on offense, Tyler Schuck and Chris Olave, did the dang thing throughout that matchup. And the Saints should feel very, very good and pleased with that. Defensively, the New Orleans Saints also had a couple of players that stood out big time in Chase Young and Kool-Aid McKinstry. 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Once that starts happening, I think that this New Orleans Saints defensive line gets much, much better. The defensive line as a whole was a little disappointing. You have a statue of a quarterback back there in Jared Goff who can move around, isn't gonna really threaten as a dual-threat guy or anything like that, and the Saints just couldn't get there. For the most part, Kaden Elliss three hits on Jared Goff, man, he was just almost there a number of times. Then of course, you get the big sack fumble that should have been a touchdown that somehow wasn't a sack fumble. You can point to whatever you want in the rulebook. It's a stupid rule, it's a dumb thing, and it doesn't make sense, and it didn't apply in this situation. In any case, it was a backwards pass, it was a sack, it was a fumble. It doesn't matter whatever it is that you want to do it, even if it wasn't a sack fumble, it was a backwards pass. In any case, because I don't want to get riled up about that, I don't want to get you riled up about that either, you're trying to enjoy your Monday here, he had the impact that he needed to have in some key moments. Not a lot of those register on a stat sheet. If you look at the stat sheet for him, because he doesn't get the sack and he doesn't get the fumble, he doesn't force a turnover, it looks like a pretty lackluster day. No tackles, had a hit on the quarterback, and then had a pass defended, but also had a couple of situations in which he set the edge appropriately, redirected the run game towards the inside. He was outstanding as a run defender in that case, even though it didn't necessarily mean him getting tackles. He put pressure on the quarterback as well. He did get after Jared Goff a couple of times. He was able to win over in that big matchup against Penesul when he got the one-on-one opportunities there, but was double-teamed a lot, changed the numbers for the rest of the guys who did and didn't win throughout their opportunities. Really, Carl Granerson was the only one to get a clean win. Blake Miller, the rookie, laid off the line of scrimmage. Carl Granerson made him pay for it. But outside of that, just didn't see enough for the rest of the defensive line, but Chase Young is giving them the opportunities there and is creating those one-on-one matchups across the line. Definitely want to see a little bit more from the rest of the D-line, but really liked what we saw from Chase Young throughout that one. The rest of that stuff is all going to come together as well. Kool-Aid McKinstry was fourth on the team with tackles with seven in total, including coming up and making some nice tackles and run support. But to me, I think the biggest thing that he did was that he made tackles to limit receivers from getting yards after catch opportunities. There was one tackle that he made against Jameson Williams. Jameson Williams got the inside position, was able to make a catch at the one-yard line, could have easily fallen into the end zone by accident there, but Kool-Aid McKinstry doing a good job of shielding and keeping him out of the end zone, making a tackle, doing so securely, and forcing another snap. Now, they still punch it into the end zone, Detroit did, because Jumeir Gibbs had a heck of a day rushing for over 150 rushing yards, 12 total broken tackles forced the most of his career, of course, coming into this New Orleans Saints team, 156 rushing yards, sorry, and two rushing touchdowns in that one. But I like the way that Kool-Aid McKinstry at least forced them to take another snap there, instead of just letting Jameson Williams just roll into the end zone. He had another really, really strong pass breakup on the left side of the field, on a key third down up against Amanraah St. Brown, where Amanraah St. Brown got the inside position, actually got his hands on the football, and Kool-Aid McKinstry fought his way through the hands of Amanraah St. Brown to rip the ball out, create an incompletion, force a front and then help the New Orleans Saints get an even better position there scoring-wise. Really, really excellent day for him and didn't really have a lot of plays or any plays that I saw to where you were like, oh man, he's not picking up from where he left off last year. He looked pretty strong throughout this matchup. So I think when you have, just like we were talking about with having Tyler Shough, having Chris Olave, and you have all these other players that stood out all throughout as well, Vailay, Juwan Johnson, Noah Fant, these guys that also contributed throughout, Travis HA. Jr. The other piece of that on the defensive side is making sure that your key players are performing there as well. And you saw that, Chase Young, checked that box, Kool-Aid McKinstry checked that box. Chase Young's day would have been a lot better if they would have given him what he earned. But in any case, you can still check that box. And then Kaden Elliss, I think, falls into this conversation as well with three hits on the quarterback, a lot of pressure that he was able to dial up. He helped to keep the pressure up despite the fact that the team was without, excuse me, Cam Jordan who had 10.5 sacks last season. Elliss had nine total tackles in this matchup, three hits on the quarterback and had a pass defense. I should give Jonas Sanker some credit here too. Ten combined tackles led the team with a tackle for a loss as well. Pete Werner looked pretty strong in this one, had seven tackles himself tied with Kool-Aid McKinstry for fourth on the team but also had a TFL and a pass defense on a diving pass breakup. Quincy Riley had one of the better pass breakups I've seen from him so far, where he was able to go in and make a play on a dig, and he undercut the route and was able to get his hands in between the, get his hand in between the hands of the receiver and knock the ball away. Really excellent poise, understanding, and just good technique of understanding, okay, shoot the hands. The Saints worked on that a ton all throughout training camp. You saw it play out in a couple of different occasions here in Detroit. A lot of really nice things from this New Orleans Saints defense, you would have liked to have seen them play the way that they played most of the game during that overtime possession, would have given the team new life at that point. Unfortunately, that didn't happen. Fine, you can live with that. You can move on. Your first overtime game in five years didn't go your way. Boohoo, 0-1, boohoo, go and do it again next week. That's going to be their mentality. That is what it was. We're moving on. Would you have liked the overtime performance to have matched what we saw in the first two quarters of the game? Sure, but it didn't. In any case, that defense was the only reason why this New Orleans Saints team was still very much in play because if the first half goes differently, if the first half ends up being a 21-point hole, and by the end of that mid-second, that mid-third quarter that the Saints had, or that first half of the third quarter that the Saints had, that would have ended up being 35-42 points, but it was all said and done. Couldn't let that happen. I thought the New Orleans Saints defense did a really, really strong job here. Again, a reason for hope and optimism that I think really starts to play in week three. Next week against Baltimore is going to be tough, but starting week three, I think this New Orleans Saints offense and defense has enough of the building blocks in place. To start stacking up some wins here as they move forward through the rest of the season. Coming up next, the New Orleans Saints unloaded some wrinkles over on the defensive side as well. I'm very curious to see where they go for guys like Martin Emerson Jr. as well as Danny Stutsman. Let's get to that next. We continue on with today's episode of Locked On Saints, part of Locked On Podcast Network, your team, every day. What's going on, everybody? My name is Ross Jackson, host of the Locked On Saints Podcast, and today's Locked On episode is brought to you by our friends at Bask & Lather. I've been using Bask & Lather's all-natural, 100% organic haircare products for my beard for a couple years now, and it's been a lifesaver because I used to have some bad beard care habits. 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You can also catch us daily on the Gulf Coast Sports and Entertainment Network as well. The New Orleans Saints ended up doing some interesting things around defense with their defensive rotation. There was some common rotation that we're used to seeing along defensive line, a lot of different opportunities for defensive tackles, edge rushers, all that throughout this one. But it was a rotation in the second level, a rotation in the secondary that were very interesting to me. A couple of possessions, the Saints took Quincy Riley, Saints' second year starting corner off the field and put Martin Emerson Jr., the fourth year veteran on the field as well. Then they also took Pete Werner off the field, who I thought played a strong game in this one. Michael and Sanders actually are Locked On hit host, picked him as his player of the game. He played so well in our Saints squad show in our post-game recap. But then they also put Danny Stutsman on. Danny Stutsman had his usual couple of big plays, big tackles, things like that, wrangled a good. I believe he had a tackle for a loss. It was either a tackle for a loss or he had a, it wasn't registered as a tackle for a loss, but he had at least a defensive stop for certain six total tackles in this matchup. Then Martin Emerson Jr. had some nice plays as well, just sticky in coverage, give you a good size, he made some nice tackles too, two tackles on the day, and a couple of those were open field-ish. He got his opportunity to go out there and show that he can be a core contributor for this team as well, even if it doesn't mean that he's starting opposite Kool-Aid McKinstry, or starting opposite Quincy Riley. Look, I know it can be super fun to react when players are signed and things like that. And I remember when Martin Emerson Jr. got signed, it was a lot of like, oh, Saints have their new CB1. People were jumping to a massive conclusion on this one. But it was always going to be Kool-Aid McKinstry as well as Quincy Riley. But they really like what they get from Martin Emerson Jr. And so finding ways to get them out on the field is certainly an interesting thing. I thought that they might do that and dime packages. So my expectation was maybe that instead of bringing in like a Jordan Houdon or something like that, that they might bring in Martin Emerson and then move Quincy Riley around a couple of different ways that you can go about that. But the way that they went about it instead was just simply rotating Quincy Riley and Martin Emerson Jr. And Martin Emerson Jr. gives you a big body, strong, physical player that can stand up to players like Aman Ra St. Brown in a physical nature and everything like that. And we saw the size difference, right? What it is that a guy like Aman Ra can do. He caught the slant in overtime where he basically ended up just bull rushing Quincy Riley out of the way after the catch to get into the end zone. And so maybe that's a place where you go, okay, yeah, so maybe some size can help over there. But I also think there are going to be times where Quincy Riley is going to win those matchups and you're not always going to have that big bodied matchup right there lined up for him. So I do think that it's interesting to get a look and see what it is that you potentially have in these players and seeing what those wrinkles are. I also love the way that they deployed their pass rush throughout this game from the second level specifically. I think the defensive line again could have done a lot more in terms of getting pressure like I mentioned, especially with a banged up offensive line, the way that Detroit's is and players playing out of position and all these other things. But since we weren't able to do that, but I liked what they did with Kaden Ellis where they moved him all around, they rushed him from the second level, they sent him on a pass rush on the same side as Chase Young, on the same side as Carl Granderson, they sent Jonas Sanker on a couple of blitzes as well. So I like the way that they're building their tendency and creating their wrinkles. I'm excited to see where things go defensively next as Brandon Saley continues to build off of some of the tendencies and trends that he set here in week one, geared down the stretch of the season. Let's get to a little bit of landy up here before we wrap up. The New Orleans Saints run game didn't give fans a lot to write home about in this game, but you could see glimpses of it working out. I like the balance between Kendre Miller and Travis Achan. Them both getting nine carries in this game was a little bit of a surprise for me. I thought that maybe they'd lean more on Travis Achan Jr. throughout it. He also had, what, seven receptions in this game. So I think that was their way of doing it. But I think that once they really get that game plan figured out in terms of how they're going to utilize Travis Achan, then I think things get a lot better. Seven receptions for Travis Achan Jr., but only 32 yards on those receptions, 4.6-yard average throughout. Some of that was throws behind the line of scrimmage that ended up getting him tackled behind the line. So he's losing yards, things like that. But he had a nice 16-yard grab, and a nice 18-yard run as well. We're starting to find some of those chunk runs down the stretch, which is the right time for that. But an earlier and more concerted effort of getting the run game going early on in the game probably would have benefited this team a lot going into the later parts if they were more effective in the run game. So overall, particularly with the protection side of it, it feels like there's still a lot of growth like left to happen to really get this run game going. But I think the talent in the backfield is good. I think you're in the right place there Travis HN Jr. I think once you get Alvin Kamara back, there's going to be some fun things you're going to be able to do there. So I'm super interested to see how they continue to build off of that, find more success, and continue to take this team towards where it needs to go, which is a run-first team that allows itself to build its passing game off of the run game. But I think there was some promise there. HN averaged 5.1 yards per carry in this game. Just give them the ball more, right? Not just in the passing game, but also on the ground, and making a more concerted effort to the run game early on, to commit to the run game early on, will probably get you there. Saints were only down 7 points by half. There wasn't a lot of reason for HN to only have 4 carries outside of the inefficiencies of the run game. So if they get that figured out, they have the right guy that's going to be able to take advantage. If they could just give them a little bit of a crease for him to be able to turn some of these 3, 4, not even 4, but like these 2, 3-yard runs into some bigger plays, and that will be massively helpful for this New Orleans Saints team. So we'll see where things go from here as the Saints. Now I have week 1 in the bag, an exciting, promising loss, if that makes sense. And then of course, they'll be looking to build off of that going into week 2, up against Baltimore and beyond. All right, we appreciate you very much. Coming up in tomorrow's episode, a deeper dive into some of the numbers and grades from this game. We appreciate you very much as always, making us a part of your day, part of your routine, for saying yes to me in the show. If you see me, please say hi. 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